DEBATE: TRENT HORN VS. JAY DYER: SHOULD CHRISTIANS ACCEPT NATURAL THEOLOGY?

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#trenthorn #catholic #jaydyer Re-uploaded with express permission. This debate will center around the Roman Catholic view of natural theology and its conclusions: are they right? Should Christians affirm natural theology? What is the Orthodox view? Jay Dyer references: 1. Fr Dcn Dr. Anania Sorems: "Orthodox Theory of Knowledge" https://www.academia.edu/45384040/An_Orthodox_Theory_of_Knowledge_The_Epistemological_and_Apologetic_Methods_of_the_Church_Fathers 2. Aristotle East and West -Dr […]

#trenthorn #catholic #jaydyer

Re-uploaded with express permission. This debate will center around the Roman Catholic view of natural theology and its conclusions: are they right? Should Christians affirm natural theology? What is the Orthodox view?

Jay Dyer references:

1. Fr Dcn Dr. Anania Sorems: "Orthodox Theory of Knowledge" https://www.academia.edu/45384040/An_Orthodox_Theory_of_Knowledge_The_Epistemological_and_Apologetic_Methods_of_the_Church_Fathers

2. Aristotle East and West -Dr David Bradshaw

3. "Essence, Energy: What Kind of Distinction" Ibid., https://www.academia.edu/39047741/_Essence_and_Energies_What_Kind_of_Distinction_Analogia_6_2019_5_35

4. "Theistic Fallacies" -Dr Gereby https://www.academia.edu/472933/Theistic_fallacies

5. "Contingency of Knowledge and Revelatory Theism" -Dr Russ Manion https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/719360951752851519/76252565742669007

6. "The Other Side" -Dr Russ Manion https://energeticprocession.wordpress.com/2011/05/17/the-other-side/

7. "The Concept of the Energies" -Dr David Bradshaw https://www.academia.edu/7089923/_The_Concept_of_the_Divine_Energies_Philosophy_and_Theology_18_2006_93_120

8. "Revelation, Philosophy, Theology" -Fr Florovsky https://jbburnett.com/resources/florovsky/3/florovsky_3-2-rev-phl-thl.pdf

9. "Christianity & Classical Culture: The Metamorphosis of Natural Theology in the Cappadocians" -Jaroslav Pelikan

10. St. Justin Popovic Vs Natural Theology in Orthodox Faith and Life in Christ book (St. Isaac chapter)

11. Orthodox Dogmatics, Vol. 1, Chpt. 1 by Fr Dimitru Staniloae (Natural Revelation isn’t natural theology)

12. "Natural Theology in the Eastern Orthodox Tradition," Chapter 5 on Greek theologians who reject Thomistic natural theology.

13. "Cosmic Liturgy" -Von Balthasar, pgs. 118, 312. (Creation is Christological)

14. "Microcosm and Mediator" -Lars Thurnburg, pgs. 72-89 (Creation is Christological)

15. "Deification of Man," Paniotis Nellas, Chpt. 1 (Creation is Christological)

16. "There is no analogia entis without the analogia fidei for St. Maximos" -Dr. Siecienski in his paper on the authenticity of the letter to marinus

17. St. Maximos’ Natural Proof for the Trinity, Questions and Doubts, Questions 104, 105, 136

18. "Logoi of Beings in Greek Patristic Thought," -Dr Bradshaw (pg. 9, reality is theory laden in St Maximos, namely Christ-laden).

19. "God in Trinity" Chapter in Lossky’s Mystical Theology (contra Thomistic natural theology explicitly)

20. The Nous doctrine absent in Rome, hence natural theology. Lossky, Vision of God, chpt. 9

21. God is not Pure Act in himself: God is known via logoi, which are christocentric -St. Maximos, 200 Chapters, pages 43-51.

22. Problems for foundationalism and prperly basic beliefs being circular, Dr. W. Jay Wood, Epistemology, pages 83-93.

23. Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa & the Transformation of Divine Simplicity, by Dr. Andrew Radde Galwitz

24. Ambiguua 1, 7, 10, 22 of St Maximos

25. The Power of God: Dynamis in St. Gregory of Nyssa’xs Trinitarian Theology, Michel Rene Barnes

26. Theology of The Icon, Vol 2 Ouspensky & Lossky

27. "Introduction" by Fr Maximos Constans to St. Maximos’ Ad Thalassios, CUA Press. St Maximos’ Christocentric cosmology

28. The Christocentric Cosmology of St. Maximos Torstein Tollefsen

29. "Gregory of Nyssa and the Concept of Divine Persons" Lucian Turescu

29. "Is ‘Epistemology Naturalized’ Really Epistemology?" -Fr Dcn Dr Ananias Sorem on Quine and Humean questions

30. St Basil’s critique of Actus Purus & Aristotle – Hexaemeron 2

31. Problems in Thomistic Epistemology, https://jaysanalysis.com/2010/05/13/problems-in-thomistic-epistemology/

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Original debate is here: https://youtu.be/tLeqQaoSeyQ

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